Missing Final Fantasy, Dune, & Starcraft scenarios on Dustin Dunn's Civ2 Site

[Blake00]

(Apologies for English)

EDIT:
This thread has gone from just being about a couple of missing scenarios on Dustin's Civ2 site to being about a whole lot of missing long lost scenarios that I've come across while working on my Civilization series scenario search & rescue project and my Civ2 scenario multi site preservation project. Someone very kindly donated Dustin's collection to me rescuing most of the missing scenarios in the list below however there are still more out there missing.

If people want to help but don't want to fluff about searching through your old collections looking for these scenarios then they are also very VERY welcome to donate their entire scenario collections to me to search for these lost scenarios in and also sort out and add to my main preservation project. I have setup some publicly accessible cloud storage with several gigabytes free that anyone can just drag and drop files into (literally it's that easy) so if you have an old CD or hard drive somewhere filled with scenarios from long gone websites and would like to donate please let me know and I'll PM you the link to my cloud. You will be publicly praised and credited for helping me or should you wish to remain anonymous that's no problem either.

One of the big Civ2 super sites still missing from the preservation collection is Whistler's (Kunal Shah) SidGames and it's hosted satellite sites like Civ2 Ziggurat, Jorrit's Civ2 Site, Markus's Ultimate/Planet Civ2, and Civ2 Scifilization which all had their own scenario collections with quite a few rarities that never made it to Poly or CFC. From what I can tell none of them survived Sidgames's rather sudden disappearance and webarchive didn't backup any of the downloads. Now that we've got Apolyton (& it's satellites), CivFanatics Atomic, and Dustin Dunns DSquared Zandanian League site it means SidGames (& it's satellites) really is the last super site missing from the Civ2 preservation project. So if anyone out there has content from those SidGames sites or a way to contact Whistler I'm all ears!!

MISSING:

• Alpha Centauri Modpack v1.5 by Carlos Alb. Romero Díaz - AlphaC15.zip (795kb) Source1
• German Babylon 5 by unknown - baby5.zip Source1
• (Star Wars) Battle of Hoth by unknown – hoth.zip (1.55M) (not Brandon Dunaway one) Source1
• (Star Wars) Battle at the Hoth System by J.Bélanger – hoth.zip (478kb) (not Brandon Dunaway one) Source1
• Star Wars Rebellion by C. Kerdrain – rebellion.zip (1.3mb) Source1
• Star Trek 7of9 (Voyager) by St Leo – stleo_7of9.zip / stleo_7of9snd.zip Source1 Source2
• Fallout for Civilization by Par Vahadar – Source1

FOUND:

• Alpha Centauri by John Mavin – Centauri.zip Source1
• Battle of Endor by Markus – Endor.zip (351kb) (not josh adams one) Source1
• Star Wars by Ambra – starwars.zip (2.5mb) or st_1 and 2 zips Source1
• Moonland 3.0 by Frederic Meunié – mlv3main.zip / mlv3snd.zip Source1
• Star Trek: Mission on Vesta by Dirk Weber - trekv2_0.zip (636kb) Source1 Source2
• Command & Conquer 2 by unknown - cc2_scn.zip Source1
• SOUND FILES for The Martian Scenario by James Thomson – martia49sound.zip Source1
• SOUND FILES for Star Trek Wars Scenario by Joseph Santurri – STWSound.zip
• Master of Orion Jr 4 by Jeelen / Agent327 Source1 Source2 Source3
• Star Trek First Contact (Kob ST-BAQ Redo) by Jeelen / Agent327 – first_contact.7z (1.8mb) Source1
• Star Trek Voyager by Jeelen / Agent327 – voyager.7z (1.3mb) Source1
• Star Trek Dominion War (Kob ST-DW Redo) by Jeelen / Agent327 – warp_9.7z (1.9mb) Source1
• Star Trek TNG by Jeelen / Agent327 – tng.7z (3.1mb) Source1
• Star Wars The Dagobah System by Filip Carlsson - star.zip Source1
• Final Fantasy II/IV Modpack by Frank Johnson – ff2damod.zip (225kb) / ffsound1.zip (267kb) / ffsound2.zip (337kb) / ffsound3.zip (338kb) / ffsound4.zip (477kb) Source1
• Final Fantasy NES Civ by Jim N. / Jomb – FFciv.zip (208kb) Source1
• Starcraft: Terran War by aland007 - terran.zip (1mb) Source1
• Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru – dune.zip (246kb) (Puor L'epice! = For the spice!) Source1
• Dune - The Battle for Arrakis 1.0 by Isaac Ashdown – dune.zip (163kb) (not David Emery's Battle for Arrakis) Source1
• Sands of Dune by James Dahl – dune.zip (293kb) Source1
• Dawn / Day of the Dead by Blackclove / Peter F. Delaney – dawndead.zip (203kb) / deadsnd.zip (503kb)* Source1 Source2 Source3
• Orion (Alpha Centauri) by unknown- orion.zip Source1
• (Star Wars) TATOOINE by J. Bélanger – tatooine.zip (71kb) (not Justin Giles one or Chris & Steve's one) Source1

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It's a cruel world lol..

There probably isn't a hope in hell that anyone will have these but I'll try anyway...

I'm in the middle of a Civ2 lost websites search side project as part of my bigger Civ scenario hunting work to feature in a video series. I located a webarchive backup of an old Civ2 website called The Zandanian League by DSquared*(it was also described as 'Dustin Dunn's Civ2 Site' in the link to it). This long lost site hosted a number of scenarios not found in any other repository I've searched through. Some of them relate to topics of great interest to me!

I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan especially the retro SNES/Super Nintendo ones and so I've been keeping an eye out for Civilization 2 scenarios based on it. Other than a vanilla Civ2 scenario with no changed graphics or sounds I'd found nothing in all the big repositories I've searched through. Yet on this site sits a full total conversion Final Fantasy 4 (2 in US) modpack for Civ2 by a fellow named Frank Johnson. As you can see in the surviving picture the trees, grass and hills are taken directly from the original game as well as the units and even the friggin cities are built from castles and villages you'd find on the world map. But of course this modpacks main download and 4 sound downloads were not backed up by webarchive.. such a shame that something this cool is likely lost forever..



Then just as I'm reeling from that painful discovery I then visit his scenarios section to find that there is a Starcraft scenarios called Starcraft Terran War by aland007. I'm also a big Starcraft fan and have been hunting for any scenarios or modpacks related to it and was surprised to find none considering it's a late 90s game with 2.5D isometric graphics that would convert in pretty well. Now sure enough it appears someone did.. and of course the bloody download for that is not backed up either lol. Even the screenshot wasn't backed up so I don't know how good it is, however the site describes it as having "new graphics".

I don't suppose by some flukey chance that someone here has these?

I notice there are emails for these guys posted.. long shot after 20 years but I guess it's worth a shot to email them and see what happens.. but yeah.. not holding my breath!

[Blake00]

I wonder what happened to Dustin Dunn / DSquared .. his Civ2 site was huuuuge.. is gonna take me a while to finish going through all his pages. Such a shame none of his stuff got backed up!

ah man.. there's also 3 Dune scenarios on his site that appear to be different from the Dune scenario I've found elsewhere and already know about.

Sands of Dune by James Dahl


Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru


The Battle for Arrakis 1.0 by Isaac Ashdown


They're about 3/4 down this page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030829...enlist/d/d.php

No screenshots (other than those maps) and wow.. no luck.. Dustin links to the authors homepages.. I find their backups and go to their downloads sections and while some of the other downloads work fine but the dune ones fail.. coooommmoooon... give me something universe haha

[Blake00]

omg there's ANOTHER FF scenario called Final Fantasy Civ by Jomb on dustin's website (about 5 or so down on this page)..
https://web.archive.org/web/20030829...enlist/f/f.php
total conversion again with awesome imported graphics except this time it's from the classic NES era instead of SNES.. once again no luck lol.. it links to authors page where there's NO webarchive backup of the download... this is torture lol!

[Blake00]

UPDATES:

Found another copy of Dune - Pour L'epice! by N.Chautru posted on a French Civ2 site I found during my ongoing Civ2 lost websites search but surprise surprise.. download failed there too lol.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010422.../scenar/sf.htm

Posted around lots of Civ forums and social media groups about these 5 scenarios but am not holding my breath of course. I did get a couple of leads of interest though..

Spoke with Apolyton & WPC host Solver who's always super helpful with my ongoing rescue work and he went through his archives and confirmed that these files never made their way to Poly's servers sadly.. however he then went above and beyond and managed to locate a very old archived conversation over at Poly about Frank's FF4 mod for Civ2:
https://apolyton.net/forum/miscellan...ntasy-scenario

In that thread a member named Elok also talks about making his own FF mod for Civ2 (great.. now there's possibly friggin 3 FF scenarios out there I can't find now lol). So I did a search for any FF posts by Elok and that lead to some other discussions where once again Franks mod was discussed and even CFC's resident guru modder techumseh also posted a link to Frank's FF mod too (ironically calling the mod ancient even back then haha).
https://apolyton.net/forum/miscellan...y-for-interest

I can see Elok is still active at Poly so I've PM'd him and crossed my fingers. As he seems like a huge FF fan like I am, so hopefully he still has a copy of his FF mod, Franks FF mod or Jomb's FF mod! Tagged techumseh as CFC too, but am not holding my breath of them still having these. If anyone here grabbed a copy of these scenarios all those years ago and it's laying around on a drive somewhere of if you know of a way to reach DSquared Dustin Dunn let me know!

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[Blake00]

UPDATES:
My catalogging of lost Civ2 website backups continues and I managed to find a site called SciFilization which specialised in Scifi Civ2 Scenarios and was hosted at Sidgames giving it it's own download file hosting that had the Starcraft scenario and 2 of the 3 Dune scenarios! But yeah.. once again downloads not backed up by Webarchive.. so close but so far.. especially as I used to be a member of the sidgames forums back in 1999 and chatted a couple of times with it's 'infamous' owner Whistler.
https://web.archive.org/web/20000903....com/other.cfm

I also notice both this site and Dustin's have a Dawn of the Dead scenario too that is apparently a full total conversion zombie survival scenario set in the US where you have a small by powerful force surviving against a huge hoard of zombies. No sign of its files in Poly backups, here at CFC (other than some forums posts where people talk about how great it is) or anywhere else so that's another cool one I'll have to chalk in as lost forever too.
https://web.archive.org/web/20021116...enlist/d/d.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20000903...m/genscifi.cfm
https://web.archive.org/web/20000525...s/daydead.html


And finally I also spoke to Elok over at Poly, he confirmed he did indeed have the Final Fantasy 4 modpack but that the computer died so his copy was lost long ago.

So yup.. I think that's it for these ones unless someone comes forward on one of the forums I've posted about them at. You win some you lose some haha!

EDIT: There's also a few more rare scenarios I've found on an old German Civilization 2 website called Civ 2 Paradise by Willi Gross:
- A German Babylon 5 scenario (so presumably different to the 2 English ones I know of)
- A English Star Wars - The Dagobah System scenario
- A English Orion - Alpha Centauri scenario
- A English Alpha scenario (no description but possibly just the regular Alpha Centuari scenario also on Apolyton).

Considering these seem to only be on a German Civ2 site there's even less chance of finding them lol. But I've created a thread over on the German Civ2 forums about these just in case and will leave it at that.

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[Blake00]

SCORE! I believe I've obtained one of the rare Alpha Centauri scenarios I mentioned above and more lost treasures! How it all went down was pretty flukey lol!

While doing the recent Civ 2 websites archive search side project (hunting for more rare scenarios of interest to me) I found this old Geocities Civ2 site by a guy named John Mavin:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050216...8827/civii.htm

His scenarios page seemed to be filled with scenarios he made that weren't anywhere else. Some of the names may look familiar but you'll probably find that the ones you're thinking of were made by other people and not this guy. What of course stood out to me was that he'd made a Alpha Centauri one as that's one of my big main scenario hunt search & rescue project categories. Like in the above situations I held my breath and clicked on the download links hoping webarchive had the files but sure enough they all failed... was devo!

However as I moved through the different years of webarchive backups of his site I found that John had later replaced his Civ2 site with a blog about some novels he was writing. It turns out the novels became successful and I discovered his blog still exists nowadays elsewhere. And because he's a successful writer he's got social media pages where he updates his fans on all his latest works! So I thought scr*w it, I've got nothing to lose by asking so I msged him on his facebook page and asked if he still has his scenarios lol.

Within a few hours he'd gotten back to me to say HE DOES! He even thanked me for messaging him as he thought no one cared about those Civ2 scenarios and would ever message him about them lol. I was like no man, thank YOU for making these and allowing me to preserve and share them with the community after all these years!

Great moments like that are why I do this crazy stuff haha! As every now and then you actually DO find the treasure lol!... Actual treasure and not trash haha!!

I have of course tested each one of them and added them to the CFC Civ2 downloads area so all collectors should grab a copy (click on titles below to go to download pages).

Alpha Centauri
I was so happy to see that the scenario I wanted the most was sure enough a total conversion scenario different to other AlphaC ones out there, and is heavily influenced by Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. Which is awesome as scenarios with influenced or ripped graphics from SMAC has totally been what I've been looking for in my super scenario hunt thread! Looks like this is probably the closest we'll get to a Civ2 scenario with totally ripped and converted SMAC graphics as I've always thought that would be cool to do (hell maybe I'll make one myself one day lol).


Even though I was mainly after the AlphaC scenario I said yes to his other stuff too as I had a feeling there would be some more rare gems and cool scenarios that even if I didn't want then others would definitely want and sure enough I wasn't disappointed. Nearly all of them are total conversion and have cool title pics too (I like it when people put effort into a good title pic). The historical ones (Roman, Viking/Saxon, & Napoleon) will no doubt be of interest to the ScenarioLeague members for possible ToT conversion with Fairline's*& other's existing enhanced graphics. He's done a nice job at taking on all areas as we've got scifi, fantasy and historical ones below!

The Holy Immortals
A rather impressive fantasy scenario. The strange dark farm/irrigation graphics technique seems to unexpectedly work quite well. I love the look of the cities, they're not Age of Empires so I'm guessing they're possibly from the Caesar and Pharaoh games.


The Chelonian Conquest
A space scenario which appears to be influenced by the Master of Orion Jr scenario but with some new graphics and new aliens.


Heptarchy - The Conquest of the Saxon Kingdoms
If you're a fan of the TV show Vikings like I am and recently saw it's final season then this one will be of even bigger interest to you as it's set around the end of the Viking age and focuses on Ecgberht of Wessex conquering the Saxon kingdoms and unifying Britain.


Napoleon - Wars of Conquest
There's a number of Napoleon scenarios out there but I've not seen John's before until now. Looks like he gave the old CiC Napoleon scenario a fresh coat of paint.


The Punic Wars
A nice Roman scenario focused on the Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage. Once again we see those dark farmlands and cool city buildings.


Axis and Allies
Not much in the way of custom graphics in this one however what makes it interesting is that John has designed the scenario and map positions along with modifying the rules and settings to best match the Axis and Allies board game by Milton Bradley.


Well now I'm going to go dip into the last great frontier of scenario hunting which is 'scenarios attached to ancient forum posts' and once that's done I really will have exhausted all possible options, hopefully I can find more of the rare and missing stuff posted previously in this thread or maybe some new stuff! Once the treasure hunt is over I can finally get everything uploaded and finish my Civ2 MGE video, not to mention release all my own scenarios which have been sitting on ice through all this lol, and then move on to ToT & beyond!

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